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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 01:30:00 -
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Vampy bat wrote:
When was it that running for CSM became a basic human right?
It is a rather strange thing, especially in the gaming industry.
And falls under corporate privilege, not governmental protection as a right. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 11:01:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:
Sorry I have no idea who Rush Limbaugh is.
.....and you are seriously trying to demonstrate a working knowledge of politics based upon experience ? Seriously ? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 11:10:00 -
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Boy, there sure are a lot of knuckleheads not understanding a single thing about 'rights' in this thread.
What is being missed (and dismissed) is the very fact that CCP is a business....NOT a government.
I'm sure throughout your life you have been in stores and restaurants that have a sign that says "We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone".
That is the fundamental right of any Corporation or Business.
If such an entity finds that a 'customer' or 'someone' that has simply entered their premises should not receive their services, they have every right to make them leave. They can also do this if they feel that entity will harm their business.
Now, if such a business develops a pattern of doing this, say to a people of a particular skin color, a lawsuit can most indeed be initiated against that business for discrimination against a particular class.
But if a restaurant, say, deems that a person 'smells so bad' or something, or has 'no shoes or shirt on' and that it will have a negative affect on their business, they have every right to refuse to do business with that person.
This is the way the world works folks.
CCP has every right to not allow someone to operate within the confines of their business if they deem it harmful....or for any reason they choose.
Now, if they said no Russians can run for CSM, that would be a different issue.
But not allowing a certain individual to run for CSM is absolutely not a violation of that person's right.
None whatsoever. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 11:11:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:.....and you are seriously trying to demonstrate a working knowledge of politics based upon experience ? Seriously ? If you're not American I can see not having a clue who he is (let alone why his name would be invoked).
There is this thing. It's called Google. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:21:00 -
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Davader wrote:Of course, Fon Revedhort should be allowed to be elected to CSM.
We're all playing in the internet spaceships game, right? So, CSM people give EVE community a "bridge" to devs. Give an ability for CCP to see players reaction on future game changes and give players an ability to know something more than devblogs by CSM minutes, etc.
Why the f*** do we discuss the real life views of CSM candidate? Are we elect a real goverment? No guys, it's still a game about spaceships... in the internet...
So it's completely wrong to sort CSM candidates by their not EVE-related preferences. All what is not related to EVE is not related to CSM (your Captain Obvious).
Such discussions and posts like 'do not vote for Fon, cuz he has specious views on non EVE themes' would produce the result, that we will have same CSM guys, who are not skilled pvpers, who were in real pvp 5 years ago last time, who don't care about solo\small scape pvp, don't care about low sec systems, etc. We will have same null-sec blobers.
You are utterly blind to the fact that CCP has a right to protect it's business. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:23:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Davader wrote:Why the f*** do we discuss the real life views of CSM candidate?. Ask him why he brought it up, why he used **** music in his PVP videos. We wouldn't have a clue about his "leanings" if it wasn't for him going out of his way to tell us.
Exactly. And those who are most vocal about those beliefs do indeed act on them.
Again, I say, how do we know he has not been involved in horrific activities with whatever 'group' he is a member of.
History says to err on the side of caution in cases like this.
Imagine what would happen if he sits on the CSM and then some horrible information was discovered about his activities ...... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:25:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Frying Doom wrote:
Sorry I have no idea who Rush Limbaugh is.
.....and you are seriously trying to demonstrate a working knowledge of politics based upon experience ? Seriously ? Knowledge of people in the United states has very little to do with the rest of the world. Take for example the stv system being used for the CSM, not made in america. For a good laugh at people from the United States and their limited views on the rest of the world look up the legal notices sent to the pirate bay. That sums up the fact very well that even professionals from the USA don't seem to realise there is a whole world that does not concern the USA. I find it comical that you consider a knowledge of this rush Limbaugh person a requirement to know anything about world politics 
I've been in bars here in San Francisco with plenty of British tourists who have actually discussed him. Next.
Don't denigrate the knowledge of whomever who lives wherever you are. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:26:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Boy, there sure are a lot of knuckleheads not understanding a single thing about 'rights' in this thread.
What is being missed (and dismissed) is the very fact that CCP is a business....NOT a government.
I'm sure throughout your life you have been in stores and restaurants that have a sign that says "We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone".
That is the fundamental right of any Corporation or Business.
If such an entity finds that a 'customer' or 'someone' that has simply entered their premises should not receive their services, they have every right to make them leave. They can also do this if they feel that entity will harm their business.
Now, if such a business develops a pattern of doing this, say to a people of a particular skin color, a lawsuit can most indeed be initiated against that business for discrimination against a particular class.
But if a restaurant, say, deems that a person 'smells so bad' or something, or has 'no shoes or shirt on' and that it will have a negative affect on their business, they have every right to refuse to do business with that person.
This is the way the world works folks.
CCP has every right to not allow someone to operate within the confines of their business if they deem it harmful....or for any reason they choose.
Now, if they said no Russians can run for CSM, that would be a different issue.
But not allowing a certain individual to run for CSM is absolutely not a violation of that person's right.
None whatsoever. You missed the law suits businesses have lost for refusing to serve people without a valid reason. Take for example African Americans in your country that have won suits based on racial descrimination. So you might want to try that again.
I covered that ....which you would know if you bothered to read my post through.
Jesus H. Christ what a tool.
Edit: I highlighted it for your eyes sake. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:32:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:
Does this person Rush have a Nobel prize or does he give speeches to the UN, or maybe he is an international lawyer helping countries in the writing of treaties?
Ya know. in my 3 years of EVE you are seriously the worst poster and troll....ever.
Congratulations. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:33:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote: well before Krixtal decided to be a **** about it.
Who, me ? |
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:34:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:
Yes and we are back to your belief that one form of discrimination is better than another.
Yes their are organisations normally considered immune to discrimination laws, these are political parties and religions, CCP is neither.
That is not my belief.
It is a fact of life and the law. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:34:00 -
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Pointless thread is pointless.
He won't be elected anyway.
People are not quite that dumb yet.
Almost.....but not quite. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.29 13:45:00 -
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Well....I do aim to please.  |
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